Comments on: What a Lousy Day http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/ Pro Cycling News, Commentary and Special Features Fri, 18 May 2012 13:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cyclocosm – Pro Cycling Blog » How To Blog With Integrity http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-12229 Cyclocosm – Pro Cycling Blog » How To Blog With Integrity Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:36:18 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-12229 [...] reported a very long time ago that Cyclingews was dead. Future—who bought CN to run it into the ground—hoped to redirect [...] [...] reported a very long time ago that Cyclingews was dead. Future—who bought CN to run it into the ground—hoped to redirect [...]

]]> By: Around the Web on Wheels - Rest Day Edition: 07.16.07 - About Cycling http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1910 Around the Web on Wheels - Rest Day Edition: 07.16.07 - About Cycling Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:08:36 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1910 [...] I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that every cycling fan’s favorite online resource has been, for years, CyclingNews. Well, Cyclingnews has been sold recently, so there’s no telling what’ll happen to them now. [...] [...] I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that every cycling fan’s favorite online resource has been, for years, CyclingNews. Well, Cyclingnews has been sold recently, so there’s no telling what’ll happen to them now. [...]

]]> By: Liz http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1796 Liz Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:47:26 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1796 Amen, Cosmo. Dito your rebuttal above. Amen, Cosmo. Dito your rebuttal above.

]]> By: Chris http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1795 Chris Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:28:18 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1795 Love it. Of course Cosmo, you know that my corporate overlords would never allow me to be openly critical of one of our Fortune 500 brethren like Future. I'm just glad you're still free to translate my carefully measured concerns. So are you doing the prologue challenge? I've got too many kids to win this thing. Love it. Of course Cosmo, you know that my corporate overlords would never allow me to be openly critical of one of our Fortune 500 brethren like Future. I’m just glad you’re still free to translate my carefully measured concerns.

So are you doing the prologue challenge? I’ve got too many kids to win this thing.

]]> By: Roger http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1794 Roger Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:34:56 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1794 I would say that yes, he should be testing his urine every day. I certainly would be if my job depended on my not testing positive for a banned substance that I had an exemption to take up to a certain level. That might seem ridiculous to the general public, but that is one of his two jobs. The first riding his bike fast, the second not having any illegal substances in his body. Written into the wada rules is that fact that you are responsible for what is in your body, regardless of how it got there. I think the line is very fuzzy on where you can get treated for a health problem. Petacchi has athsma? Well my red blood cell count is naturally lower than his, can I take medicine to raise it up? There are hundreds of other athsmatic athletes who go through their daily lives without testing positive. I would say that yes, he should be testing his urine every day. I certainly would be if my job depended on my not testing positive for a banned substance that I had an exemption to take up to a certain level. That might seem ridiculous to the general public, but that is one of his two jobs. The first riding his bike fast, the second not having any illegal substances in his body. Written into the wada rules is that fact that you are responsible for what is in your body, regardless of how it got there.

I think the line is very fuzzy on where you can get treated for a health problem. Petacchi has athsma? Well my red blood cell count is naturally lower than his, can I take medicine to raise it up? There are hundreds of other athsmatic athletes who go through their daily lives without testing positive.

]]> By: cosmo http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1793 cosmo Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:13:18 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1793 Petacchi did know exactly what was going <i>into</i> his body - the same medication he'd always taken. What he didn't know, and couldn't possibly have known, was what was going to come out in his urine samples. <br> At least <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15377972&dopt=Abstract" rel="nofollow">one study</a> indicates that simply taking your inhaler as normal can cause you to exceed the limit. So how exactly is Petacchi supposed to keep his levels below 1000 ng/mL? Painstakingly analyze his urine day after day to pinpoint how many sprays of asthma medicine he can take per day? And hope that his liver metabolizes it at exactly the same rate during the varying efforts, dehydration and other stresses of a Grand Tour? <br> If he finds his airways tightening toward the end of a stage, is Petacchi supposed to simply not take his medicine, for fear that he might turn in a urine sample above the limit? Not only does that defeat the purpose of a THE in the first place, but it endangers every rider in the race, by severely handicapping Petacchi's ability to ride his bike. <br> It's not like Petacchi grabbed an inhaler full of meth, <i>vis a vis</i> Sosa's corked exhibition bat. He used the same medicine he's always used and has always had a right to use, and this time came out over an imaginary line created by WADA - an organization <a href="http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060613_123447_5532" rel="nofollow">not exactly known</a> for its deference to reason. Petacchi did know exactly what was going into his body – the same medication he’d always taken. What he didn’t know, and couldn’t possibly have known, was what was going to come out in his urine samples.

At least one study indicates that simply taking your inhaler as normal can cause you to exceed the limit. So how exactly is Petacchi supposed to keep his levels below 1000 ng/mL? Painstakingly analyze his urine day after day to pinpoint how many sprays of asthma medicine he can take per day? And hope that his liver metabolizes it at exactly the same rate during the varying efforts, dehydration and other stresses of a Grand Tour?

If he finds his airways tightening toward the end of a stage, is Petacchi supposed to simply not take his medicine, for fear that he might turn in a urine sample above the limit? Not only does that defeat the purpose of a THE in the first place, but it endangers every rider in the race, by severely handicapping Petacchi’s ability to ride his bike.

It’s not like Petacchi grabbed an inhaler full of meth, vis a vis Sosa’s corked exhibition bat. He used the same medicine he’s always used and has always had a right to use, and this time came out over an imaginary line created by WADA – an organization not exactly known for its deference to reason.

]]> By: Roger http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1790 Roger Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:24:13 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1790 And honestly I have little sympathy. When you go through getting a therapeutic use exemption, you know exactly what you can and can't take. You certainly don't feel as if you have open season to load up on it. This smells of the time Sammy Sosa got busted for hitting with a corked bat and said that he just got the bat he used to hit homeruns during batting practice confused with his regular bat. Give me a break. He is getting paid millions of dollars to hit a baseball. He knows what is in his hands when he hits a ball, he knows what it feels like, he has coaches and trainers and product reps and batboys, and he accidentaly brought up a corked bat? I can maybe see the excuse of taking a cough medicine to which you didn't know the ingredients, even that is stretching it, but if you have a TUE for it and you get busted, you knew what you were doing and how much you could and couldn't do, admit you cheated and take the punishment. Maybe it isn't fair, and the population at large would fail drug tests for the same types of slipups all the time, but you know what? The population at large's livelihood doesn't depend on a sport whose credibility with its fans is decreasing every time one of its stars tests positive and lies about it. You knew what you were taking as on the banned list, you knew that you had an exemption for lo doses, get it right. If you really just screwed up, you are an idiot, and I still have no sympathy. I just can't believe that world class endurance athletes don't know everything that goes into their body. And honestly I have little sympathy. When you go through getting a therapeutic use exemption, you know exactly what you can and can’t take. You certainly don’t feel as if you have open season to load up on it. This smells of the time Sammy Sosa got busted for hitting with a corked bat and said that he just got the bat he used to hit homeruns during batting practice confused with his regular bat. Give me a break. He is getting paid millions of dollars to hit a baseball. He knows what is in his hands when he hits a ball, he knows what it feels like, he has coaches and trainers and product reps and batboys, and he accidentaly brought up a corked bat?

I can maybe see the excuse of taking a cough medicine to which you didn’t know the ingredients, even that is stretching it, but if you have a TUE for it and you get busted, you knew what you were doing and how much you could and couldn’t do, admit you cheated and take the punishment. Maybe it isn’t fair, and the population at large would fail drug tests for the same types of slipups all the time, but you know what? The population at large’s livelihood doesn’t depend on a sport whose credibility with its fans is decreasing every time one of its stars tests positive and lies about it. You knew what you were taking as on the banned list, you knew that you had an exemption for lo doses, get it right. If you really just screwed up, you are an idiot, and I still have no sympathy. I just can’t believe that world class endurance athletes don’t know everything that goes into their body.

]]> By: Davide http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1789 Davide Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:56:17 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/2007/07/what-a-lousy-day/#comment-1789 I think salbutamol can be used as a masking agent for other banned substances, hence it's inclusion on the banned list. I think salbutamol can be used as a masking agent for other banned substances, hence it’s inclusion on the banned list.

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