Comments on: Winding It Up For the Vuelta http://cyclocosm.com/2009/08/winding-it-up-for-the-vuelta/ Pro Cycling News, Commentary and Special Features Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:45:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Al http://cyclocosm.com/2009/08/winding-it-up-for-the-vuelta/comment-page-1/#comment-12192 Al Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:01:25 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/?p=1743#comment-12192 I agree that the system needs to be more equitable. I've never understood how countries don't get equal representation. I agree that the system needs to be more equitable. I’ve never understood how countries don’t get equal representation.

]]> By: henkio http://cyclocosm.com/2009/08/winding-it-up-for-the-vuelta/comment-page-1/#comment-12191 henkio Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:00:31 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/?p=1743#comment-12191 in my boredom i did some calculations to see what would happen if they only took the points of the first and fifth rider from a country for the nation ranking. only czech would benefit. 1. spain 672 2. italy 358 3. luxemburg 334 4. czech 310 5. britain 306 6. aussie 299 7. germany 274 8. belgium 237 9. russia 236 10. norway 216 11. usa 159 12. holland 151 13. france 139 in my boredom i did some calculations to see what would happen if they only took the points of the first and fifth rider from a country for the nation ranking. only czech would benefit.

1. spain 672
2. italy 358
3. luxemburg 334
4. czech 310
5. britain 306
6. aussie 299
7. germany 274
8. belgium 237
9. russia 236
10. norway 216
11. usa 159
12. holland 151
13. france 139

]]> By: henkio http://cyclocosm.com/2009/08/winding-it-up-for-the-vuelta/comment-page-1/#comment-12190 henkio Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:43:14 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/?p=1743#comment-12190 @ al: luxemburg and norway get 9 places, france and the netherlands only 6. so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer isn't what's happening here. if you look at italy, the top-5 riders (cunego, rebellin, di luca, garzelli and pellizotti) accumulated 910 points so far, putting them in second place in the world ranking. taking away di luca and rebellin would still leave them with 528 points, enough for a 7th place in the world ranking and 9 riders at the worlds. replace them with pozzato and scarponi and the second place in the world ranking is for italy again with 821 points. the bad thing about this ranking imo is that it just takes the total number of points by the 5 best ranked from a country. so you have norway with 2 highly placed riders (thor at 10, ebh at 35) and no other rider in the entire list (221 riders gained at least 1 point this season). but because the two best riders have gained enough points together for norway to be placed 10th, they get 9 places at the worlds. for example: france has 30 riders in the world ranking, that's almost 15% of the entire ranking. if andy schleck was a country, he could bring 8 others along because he has enough points by himself to be placed 10th. that's just not right. @ al: luxemburg and norway get 9 places, france and the netherlands only 6. so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer isn’t what’s happening here.

if you look at italy, the top-5 riders (cunego, rebellin, di luca, garzelli and pellizotti) accumulated 910 points so far, putting them in second place in the world ranking.

taking away di luca and rebellin would still leave them with 528 points, enough for a 7th place in the world ranking and 9 riders at the worlds. replace them with pozzato and scarponi and the second place in the world ranking is for italy again with 821 points.

the bad thing about this ranking imo is that it just takes the total number of points by the 5 best ranked from a country. so you have norway with 2 highly placed riders (thor at 10, ebh at 35) and no other rider in the entire list (221 riders gained at least 1 point this season). but because the two best riders have gained enough points together for norway to be placed 10th, they get 9 places at the worlds.
for example: france has 30 riders in the world ranking, that’s almost 15% of the entire ranking.

if andy schleck was a country, he could bring 8 others along because he has enough points by himself to be placed 10th.
that’s just not right.

]]> By: Al http://cyclocosm.com/2009/08/winding-it-up-for-the-vuelta/comment-page-1/#comment-12187 Al Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:18:57 +0000 http://cyclocosm.com/?p=1743#comment-12187 How does that World's team count get established? It seems that it's a case of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Isn't it more sporting to have all countries field a 5-man team? (or at least an equal number each) How does that World’s team count get established? It seems that it’s a case of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Isn’t it more sporting to have all countries field a 5-man team? (or at least an equal number each)

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