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	<title>Comments on: Is Velocity Nation The Future Of News?</title>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://cyclocosm.com/2009/09/is-velocity-nation-the-future-of-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13540</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know why I missed this post earlier, but I agree.  The Toto worshipers add to a well-informed discussion.  No matter whether you are red, blue, or purple regarding LA, slippystream or Columbia/HighHorse, this only increases the transparency.   Intelligent discourse, rebuttal, counter-rebuttal, etc., creates a better educated fan.  I&#039;d rather not have my head in the sand like so many baseball fans.  I&#039;d sure like to see this discouse in more places, too.  

I especially wanted to note that in view of this post, I have now moved Velocity Nation in my tabbed RSS reader from &quot;my blogs&quot; to &quot;my news.&quot; BTW, Pez went the other direction (But I haven&#039;t seriously read anything from Pez in a couple of years anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know why I missed this post earlier, but I agree.  The Toto worshipers add to a well-informed discussion.  No matter whether you are red, blue, or purple regarding LA, slippystream or Columbia/HighHorse, this only increases the transparency.   Intelligent discourse, rebuttal, counter-rebuttal, etc., creates a better educated fan.  I&#8217;d rather not have my head in the sand like so many baseball fans.  I&#8217;d sure like to see this discouse in more places, too.  </p>
<p>I especially wanted to note that in view of this post, I have now moved Velocity Nation in my tabbed RSS reader from &#8220;my blogs&#8221; to &#8220;my news.&#8221; BTW, Pez went the other direction (But I haven&#8217;t seriously read anything from Pez in a couple of years anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: cosmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The caveats:

Facts can always be slanted, and some info can be bad. The &quot;rational adults&quot; part comes into play in determining what information you can safely take away from an otherwise slanted article. 

Let&#039;s examine the Ashenden interview. Andy Shen claims to know &quot;from speaking to teammates&quot; that Armstrong is &quot; 5&#039; 5&quot;, 5&#039; 6&quot; &quot;.  

I think this is pretty verifiably false given the size of Armstrong&#039;s frames, stem and cranks (58cm, 120mm 175mm).  

While these could be garbage PR numbers from decoy bikes, and Armstrong could have a secret fleet of otherwise-identical minibikes that he actually uses in races, I think in proportion to the UCI-mandatory 700c wheels—as well as to other competitors—5&#039; 10&quot; seems far likelier than 5&#039; 5&quot;.

Ashenden, for reasons that are clear in his interview, is not an Armstrong fan. I trust him on &lt;a href=&quot;http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2009/spiking-armstrongs-99-samples&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;methods and data&lt;/a&gt;, but his inferences are way off: Example: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
It is incomprehensible that someone would get himself into such perfect condition and then essentially eat like a horse so that his body weight ballooned up to 79 kilos, and then somehow intend to go back through that hell to lose 7 kilos again for the next race. That&#039;s just not true, it doesn&#039;t happen.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve done this. Repeatedly. &quot;Perfect condition&quot; hasn&#039;t won me any Tours de France, but it&#039;s no great feat to regain and re-drop that amount of weight at my (5&#039; 9&quot;) size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The caveats:</p>
<p>Facts can always be slanted, and some info can be bad. The &#8220;rational adults&#8221; part comes into play in determining what information you can safely take away from an otherwise slanted article. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s examine the Ashenden interview. Andy Shen claims to know &#8220;from speaking to teammates&#8221; that Armstrong is &#8221; 5&#8242; 5&#8243;, 5&#8242; 6&#8243; &#8220;.  </p>
<p>I think this is pretty verifiably false given the size of Armstrong&#8217;s frames, stem and cranks (58cm, 120mm 175mm).  </p>
<p>While these could be garbage PR numbers from decoy bikes, and Armstrong could have a secret fleet of otherwise-identical minibikes that he actually uses in races, I think in proportion to the UCI-mandatory 700c wheels—as well as to other competitors—5&#8242; 10&#8243; seems far likelier than 5&#8242; 5&#8243;.</p>
<p>Ashenden, for reasons that are clear in his interview, is not an Armstrong fan. I trust him on <a href="http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2009/spiking-armstrongs-99-samples" rel="nofollow">methods and data</a>, but his inferences are way off: Example: </p>
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It is incomprehensible that someone would get himself into such perfect condition and then essentially eat like a horse so that his body weight ballooned up to 79 kilos, and then somehow intend to go back through that hell to lose 7 kilos again for the next race. That&#8217;s just not true, it doesn&#8217;t happen.
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<p>I&#8217;ve done this. Repeatedly. &#8220;Perfect condition&#8221; hasn&#8217;t won me any Tours de France, but it&#8217;s no great feat to regain and re-drop that amount of weight at my (5&#8242; 9&#8243;) size.</p>
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